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Update 16 May: This is now implemented in FW 4.5. Those settings are hidden on the device and can only be configured in the Sim'n Tonic Config Tool.
More info here: https://youtu.be/uEJjHdD4sJo

Simon
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I may be alone on this one...
but having done years and years of woodshedding with a Dr. Beat, I'm missing one little feature here on the Nome II:

the DB-66 has this option to throw in the 8th note ( at any volume level )
( see this pdf : https://www.cosmosmusic.com/upload/boar ... -66_e2.pdf)

It would be pretty cool to be able to have that option as well.
This would be independent from the midi clock info transmitted of course... it's just for the headphone or audio output of the unit.

-pete

Hi Pete

I think this is already done in this feature viewtopic.php?t=301 ?
Setting a time signature in x/8 will precisely add what you want.

The only thing missing would be another independent volume setting for the "8th node" - for now it will have the same volume as any the "Uo.2" - Volume2, i.e. volume of every click expect the downbeat.

Do you want to change this topic into a "Add a Uo.3 for 8th and 16th audio metronome clicks?

Simon

sure!
do you make that change... or do i?

-pete

You can simply edit your first post

Please think about how much would be the minimum for you:

• In an ideal world we could add a Uo.3, Uo.4, and a CL.3, CL.4 settings to change both volume and click sound for 8th (Uo.3/CL.3) and 16th notes (Uo.4/CL.4).
• On the other end are no settings at all for 8th and 16th notes, having the same sound and volume as non-downbeats.
• Then you have all the possibilities in the middle, with only one setting Uo.3, or only CL.3, or Uo.3+CL.3, etc.

I'd say all of these are possible, and I know there is quite a strong interest for having a better metronome, so I'm quite sure this will make it to the device in one form or another. It could make a great new firmware together with this feature: viewtopic.php?t=200

Simon

Taking into account AnotherSimon's comment here, I think a good workaround for this, without any other setting, would be to simply make 8th and 16th notes quieter by default.
I would suggest a volume 2 steps below the volume of 4th notes (Uo.2 setting), which means a 12dB difference.

This is very easy to implement and since it does not require any new setting, it could be implemented as part of FW 4.0.

Simon wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 09:30 Taking into account AnotherSimon's comment here, I think a good workaround for this, without any other setting, would be to simply make 8th and 16th notes quieter by default.
I would suggest a volume 2 steps below the volume of 4th notes (Uo.2 setting), which means a 12dB difference.

This is very easy to implement and since it does not require any new setting, it could be implemented as part of FW 4.0.

That would be excellent, thanks!

PS: really appreciate the quick response to my query.

Awesome What do you think about the 12dB? I could also do 6dB?
You can check this on your device by comparing the volume, each "number" is a 6dB difference.
To quickly change the volume hold the setup button down and turn the knob.

Simon wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 13:58 Awesome What do you think about the 12dB? I could also do 6dB?
You can check this on your device by comparing the volume, each "number" is a 6dB difference.
To quickly change the volume hold the setup button down and turn the knob.

I reckon 6dB is too subtle ... 12dB would be preferable (at least for me!).

Thanks.

(PS this took me a couple of days as I hadn't updated my notification settings)

No worries
And I agree, I did a few listening tests and I would also say 12dB sounds like the better choice.
So it's decided, by default all 8th and 16th notes will be 12dB less loud.
I'll investigate next week to know if this makes it to FW 4.0 or 5.0.

Then maybe there will be more settings like Uo.3, Uo.4, CL.3 and CL.4 in the future, but if this solution fits 99% of the people I'm happy

Unfortunately this will not make it for FW 4.0, but I will make it first priority for FW 5.0, maybe even a middle release like 4.5.

Simon wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 14:31 Unfortunately this will not make it for FW 4.0, but I will make it first priority for FW 5.0, maybe even a middle release like 4.5.

Thanks - understood

Hi - just checking in, did this feature make it into the list for 5.0?

Thanks.

Better - it made it for v4.5

FW 4.5 is actually ready, I wanted to release it before Superbooth but unfortunately the configuration software is taking a bit more time than planned (the firmware is ready), so it will have to wait till after SB

That's great, thanks. Looking forward to being able to convince our drummer to switch to the Nome ...

This is done - released with FW 4.5.

Very happy with all the changes - I've got the 8th note volume set just right, and I've sampled the click sound from our drummer's beloved Tama Rhythm Watch. Thanks for being so responsive to the requests of users. The new configuration app is excellent, very clear and easy to use.

Thanks!

Glad to hear! So did that do the trick to convince your drummer?

And just wondering, what is the "ideal" 8th note volume for you? (i.e. the difference between Vo.2 and Vo.3, which by default is "2", which is 12dB)

Simon wrote: ↑21 May 2025, 09:21 Glad to hear! So did that do the trick to convince your drummer?

And just wondering, what is the "ideal" 8th note volume for you? (i.e. the difference between Vo.2 and Vo.3, which by default is "2", which is 12dB)

Let's see ... will be rehearsing again early next week.

I have it set to 3, that works well for me.

AnotherSimon wrote: ↑21 May 2025, 10:47 I have it set to 3, that works well for me.

I see - and what is your setting for Vo.2 (you can see that on the device in the settings)? If it is 5, then your 8th notes are actually the same as the default volume (i.e. Vo.2 minus 12 dB since each volume step represents 6dB).